Sportradar Group Ag (SRAD) Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Sportradar Group Ag (SRAD 10.32%)
Q1 2024 Earnings Call
May 15, 2024, 8:30 a.m. ET

Contents:

• Prepared Remarks
• Questions and Answers
• Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Sportradar first-quarter 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator instructions] As a reminder, this call may be recorded.

I would now like to turn the call over to Jim Bombassei, head of investor relations. Please go ahead.

Jim Bombassei — Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Sportradar’s earnings call for the first quarter of 2024. Please note that the slides we will reference during this presentation can be accessed via the webcast on our website at investors.sportradar.com and will be posted on our website at the conclusion of this call. A replay of today’s call will also be available on our website.

After our prepared remarks, we will open the call to questions from analysts and investors. In the interest of time, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Please note that some of the information you will hear during our discussion today will consist of forward-looking statements including, without limitation, those regarding revenue and future business outlook. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results or trends to differ materially from our forecast.

For more information, please refer to the risk factors discussed in our annual report on Form 20-F and Form 6-K filed today with the SEC along with the associated earnings release. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements or information which speaks as of their respective dates. Also during today’s call, we will present both IFRS and non-IFRS financial measures. Additional disclosures regarding these non-IFRS measures, including a reconciliation of IFRS to non-IFRS measures, are included in the earnings release supplemental slides and our filings with the SEC, each of which is posted to our investor relations website.

Joining me today are Carsten Koerl, our chief executive officer; and Ger Griffin, chief financial officer. Now, I’ll turn the call over to Carson.

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, and good afternoon to everyone. We are excited to be speaking to you today about the momentum we are seeing across our business and our strong start to the year. There are a number of key takeaways I want to highlight from the quarter and for the year ahead. First, we delivered strong top-line growth with revenues up 28% as we saw strength across our business and benefited from the uptake of our NBA and ATP content and solutions and the strong execution of our team.

Second, we continued to be laser focused on driving efficiencies in our organization and delivered 18% adjusted EBITDA margins, which were ahead of our estimations. Third, we are raising our guidance, given this strong performance and our confidence in the year ahead. We now expect to grow full-year revenue and adjusted EBITDA by at least 21%. Fourth, we recently named key additions to our leadership team, naming a new CFO and a chief technology and AI officer.

And fifth, we are commencing our share repurchase program in the upcoming trading window. This action is supported by our confidence in our outlook and the strong value we see in our stock. The success we are seeing is underpinned by our competitive advantages. Sportradar is a global technology leader with a differentiated and commanding position in the sports ecosystem.

No other company matches our scale, reach our resources, bringing together over 800 betting operators, 400 sport leagues, and 900 media partners covering nearly a million sport matches every year. The breadth and depth of our content, data, and leading technology provides us unmatched insights into the diverse portfolio of sport and bettors preferences, enabling us to create innovative solutions for our clients and engaging a personalized experience for the sport fans worldwide. Our confidence in the year ahead is backed by our consistent track record, having achieved profitable revenue growth of at least 20% for each of the last three years, as well as being cash generative. We believe there are no other companies in our peer group, public or private, that have achieved this.

Now, let’s turn to our Quarter 1 results. We saw strong results on both the top and bottom line as we grew revenue 28% year over year to 266 million euros and adjusted EBITDA 29% to 47 million euros. This marks a great start to the year. Before I get into the details of the results, I wanted to note that this quarter, we simplified our financial reporting approach to align with the recent changes to our organization and to address feedback we have received to present our financials in a simpler way and that aligns with our business fundamentals.

And now, to our revenue growth. Betting technology and solutions revenue were up 35%, and sports content technology solutions revenue were up 5%. From a geographic mix, rest of the world revenues were up 19% year over year, while U.S. revenues were up 65% year over year.

We saw the tangible and significant benefits from our ATP and NBA partnership, which are amplifying our revenue growth, helping drive pricing and customer uptake of additional services. In fact, customers’ uptake on ATP content and solutions is running above our plan, and we have already seen more than 50% of ATP clients signing up for our four audiovisual product. A number are also taking our latest innovations like Sportradar 4Sight streaming, reinforcing the premium nature of this content. Given this performance, we have raised our full-year’s outlook for revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth to at least 21%.

Underscoring these excellent results, we will be putting our 200 million share repurchase program to work during the upcoming trading window. Now, turning to some of the operational highlights in the quarter and more recently. We are very pleased to have recently announced a new long-term partnership with UTR Sports for the UTR Pro Tennis Tour, the top tennis tour for rising professionals. Harnessing our industry leading AI and computer vision technology, we will create new analysis and insights in each match, helping to drive fan engagement and expanding in-play opportunities.

Tennis is the second most bet on sports, and UTR provides Sportradar with a consistent volume of tennis matches throughout the year, complimenting our tennis portfolio and reinforcing our selective approach to expand our sports rights. We saw continued momentum in our core products in the quarter. Like our managed trading services, our MTS solution, which offers sophisticated trading risk and liability management for sportsbooks continues to be a leader in the marketplace. Turnover grew 28% year over year to approximately 9 billion this quarter, ranking us as a top bookmaker globally based on liquidity.

In our ads business, we delivered personalized digital advertising at scale that drives customer acquisition for our online betting and casino clients. We work with over 150 brands across multiple digital media channels, including programmatic and paid social. With over 10 billion ad impressions delivered in the first quarter alone, we ranked as one of the top advertisers in the online betting and casino space. Key to our success is our ability to transform the deep data and rich insights from our portfolio operators, enabling us to develop new and enhanced products and create a more immersive betting experience and stimulate in-play.

One of the exciting products we recently launched is Alpha Odds, a game-changing offering which builds on our market-leading core of solutions by generating odds data individual sportsbooks based on their real-time liquidity and deep data. It has proven to generate a higher margin for sportsbooks on their betting tickets. In fact, over the recently concluded UEFA European Championship qualifying match, it increased profits by an average of 15%. While we initially launched Alpha Odds in soccer, it is now live in tennis and seeing promising results, and we will soon be introducing it to basketball.

By Quarter 1, 2025, we plan to release it in three more sports, bringing total coverage for our turnover to approximately 90%. We are leading when it comes to innovation and product development, and this is fueling our growth in fact. Sportradar made Fast Company’s 2024 list of most innovative companies in sport for our leading Computer Vision technology and Enhanced Table Tennis solutions. Our leadership and teams are the drivers for this success, and they have an unwavering commitment and dedication to making Sportradar one of the most exciting places to be in the sport industry.

On this front, we recently welcomed two talented executives on the leadership team. I am delighted to welcome Craig Felenstein as our chief financial officer; and Behshad Behzadi as our chief technology officer and chief AI officer. Craig is a seasoned finance executive and has over 30 years of experience working in finance on U.S. publicly listed companies such as Discovery, News Corp, and Viacom.

He joins us from Lindblad Expeditions where he was CFO for approximately seven years. Craig will be coming on board starting June 1st, and I’m looking forward to partnering with him as we look to continue to drive our business momentum, operational leverage, and shareholder value. Behshad joined us from Google where he played a key role in developing Google’s AI strategy and commercializing some of its most recognized products, including Google Assistant, Google Lens, and Next-gen AI Assistant. I’m very excited to have him sitting in Switzerland headquarters with me.

His dual job title reflects the importance we place in the development of our AI capabilities and the role which he is having in shaping. You will be hearing more about this in the coming quarters, but I believe its impact will be transformational for our company. These additions complement an executive team that is an already highly talented, passionate, and driven to win. I have great confidence in our team’s ability to continue to drive our business forward in the years ahead.

I also want to take this moment to thank Ger for his contributions and leadership. He was of meaningful strength in our financial organization and is leaving us with a strong team and foundation. I know I speak for the entire organization when I say it has been a great pleasure working with Ger, and we wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors. Now, touching on our key priorities.

Our leadership team is focused on driving shareholder value through the execution of our growth strategy where the fundamental pillars are centered around content, data, and technology. By exploring the full depth and breadth of our content, data rights, and technology portfolio, we are investing in exciting new products that will deliver future value for our clients and enhancing our growth in the coming years. By using our advanced technology and AI capabilities, we are enhancing our core products across odds making, trading, and marketing services. This in turn will help drive fan engagement and operators monitorization.

The strategy beyond the immediate priorities is taking shape with a key step being the recruitment of a technology leader with leader skills and experience. As a technologist, this truly excites me. I look forward to sharing more about our plans around AI and our exciting future in the coming quarters. To wrap up, this is the year of execution, and we are delivering on our core commitments for 2024 while positioning ourselves for continued growth in the exciting year to come.

It was an excellent quarter, and we are well positioned to continue to deliver strongly in the year ahead. Our financial performance was underpinned by the depth and scale of our business fundamentals, the strategic investments we are making for the future, and our leadership team’s laser-sharp focus on execution and driving efficiency. All of these factors are enabling us to continue to lead the industry with our growth strategy and unwavering focus on client and shareholder value. I’m extremely optimistic about Sportradar’s outlook and long-term future.

And now, I will turn it over to Ger.

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Carsten, for your kind words. It has been a pleasure to work with you and the great team at Sportradar. I would also like to welcome Craig and Behshad to the leadership team. I remain a big fan of the company and wish you all the best in the exciting growth years ahead.

With respect to 2024, we are very happy with our positive start this quarter where we delivered strong growth top and bottom. Our business fundamentals continue to be strong, and we are well positioned for continued growth and success in 2024 where we are raising our full-year outlook. Before I get into the detail of our Q1 performance and our improved outlook for 2024, I want to briefly comment on the changes we’ve made to our financial reporting. While there is no change to our core financial statements, we will now report and discuss our financial performance on a consolidated basis, supported by supplemental revenue analysis by major product grouping and by major geographic region.

This reporting approach is more in line with our streamlined global organizational structure and how we manage our business. We have posted to our Investor Relations section of our website an overview of these changes. With that, let’s discuss our Q1 financial performance. Our Q1 financial results reinforce the durability and the scalability of our growth profile, as well as our focus on profitability.

Revenue was 266 million euros, up 58 million or 28% year over year. We had a net loss in the quarter of 1 million euros versus a profit of 7 million euros in the prior-year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was 47 million euros, up 11 million or 29% year over year. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 18%, in line with the prior year.

Net cash from operating activities was 67 million, up 10 million or 17% year over year. Our strong revenue growth was driven primarily by the recurring client revenue streams, leveraging our best-in-class products and content portfolio, amplified this year by the incremental contributions from our ATP and NBA partnership deals. Betting technology and solutions represented 82% of our total revenues and delivered 219 million, up 56 million or 35% year over year. This was driven primarily by streaming and betting engagement, up 26 million or 46% year over year; live data and odds, up 19 million or 29% year over year; and managed betting services, up 12 million or 32% year over year.

For content technology and services, represented 18% of total revenues and delivered 47 million, up 2 million or 5% year over year, driven primarily by marketing and media services which grew 6%. On a geographic basis, our rest of world client base represented 75% of total revenues and delivered 200 million, up 33 million or 19% year over year. Our U.S. client base represented 25% of total revenues and delivered 66 million, up 26 million or 65% year over year.

We generated a loss in the quarter of 1 million euros, compared to a profit of 7 million in the prior-year quarter. The year-over-year change was primarily driven by higher finance costs and foreign currency losses, which collectively accounted for 24 million of the year-over-year change. This was partially offset by a 7 million lower stock based compensation expense and an 11 million improvement in adjusted EBITDA. Looking at our adjusted EBITDA, it was 47 million, up 11 million or 29% year over year.

Adjusted EBITDA margins were 18%, in line with the prior year. While our adjusted EBITDA margins were flat year on year, the strategic actions we’ve taken to date, as well as the continued focus on sustainable profitability in ’24, delivered a 10 percentage point improvement in operating leverage collectively in personnel, cost of sales, and other operating costs. This helped to offset the impact on operating leverage resulting from the one-time step-up in sports rights costs primarily for the first year of the NBA and ATP partnership deals. Personal expenses were 80 million, up 3 million or 3% year over year, as we benefited from the cost actions announced last year and our focus on delivering improved operating leverage.

Other operating expenses were 21 million, broadly flat year over year, as they also benefited from the cost actions announced last year and are focused on delivering improved operating leverage. Sports rights were 91 million, up 40 million or 78% year over year, driven by new rights, in particular, our ATP and NBA partnership deals. This increase was in line with our expectations. We continue to maintain a strong balance sheet close to the quarter with liquidity of 495 million, comprised of 275 million in cash and cash equivalents and a 220 million revolving credit facility with no amounts outstanding.

On cash flow, we expect to see stronger cash generation over the remaining quarters of this year and are on track to achieve robust cash flow generation for the full year. With our strong business fundamentals and our confidence in the long-term profitability and cash flow outlook for the company, we feel our stock is very attractive at current valuation levels. Accordingly, we expect to commence purchases under our previously announced $200 million share buyback program in the upcoming trading window. In summary, we delivered a strong Q1 financial performance, including record revenues, as well as a strong adjusted EBITDA, as we continue to be laser focused on improving operating leverage and profitability.

With that, let’s turn to our revised 2024 outlook. Given our strong start to the year, we are raising our full-year outlook and now expect to deliver at least 21% growth in revenue and adjusted EBITDA, which equates to the following. Revenue of 1.060 billion versus the prior guidance of 1.050 billion; adjusted EBITDA of 202 million versus our prior guidance of 200 million; adjusted EBITDA margins of approximately 19%. Some factors to consider when assessing our outlook for 2024.

Revenue growth will be driven primarily by our strong recurring client revenue streams, leveraging our best-in-class products and content portfolio amplified this year by the addition of our ATP and NBA partnerships. As we’ve noted in the past, we are continuously challenging all aspects of our business to ensure that we’re focusing our talent and resources on the most profitable growth opportunities and unlocking operating leverage. We expect the strategic actions we’ve taken to date, as well as our continued focus on sustainable profitability in 2024, will unlock operating leverage in personnel, cost of sales, and other operating costs. This should offset the impact on operating leverage resulting from the one-time step-up in sports rights costs from the first full year of the NBA and ATP partnership deals.

For the year, we expect our adjusted EBITDA margins to progress from the mid to high teens in the first half of the year into the low 20s in the second half of the year. This seasonality is primarily a function of the phasing of sports rights costs and the realization of the full-year run-rate benefits from our cost actions. We continue to be very much focused on enhancing margins and free cash flow generation. As we look beyond 2024, we see the potential to unlock operating leverage from all major expense line items as we actively manage our operating cost run rates and benefit from a more stable sports rights portfolio cost base.

In summary, we are very pleased with our excellent Q1 performance and how the rest of the year is unfolding. Our business fundamentals are strong, and we are very well positioned for continued growth and success in 2024. Before I hand off to the operator for questions, I would like to thank all of our investors and analysts for their support. It’s been a pleasure engaging with you, and I wish you and Sportradar success in the exciting years ahead.

With that, I would like to open the call for questions. Operator, will you open the line for questions?

Questions & Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator instructions] Our first question comes from Ryan Sigdahl with Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Your line is open.

Ryan Sigdahl — Craig-Hallum Capital Group — Analyst

Hey. Good day, Carsten. And best of luck in future endeavors, Ger. I want to start with data rights.

So, you’re on the tail end of your new NBA contract or, I guess, year one of that. But what, I guess, have you learned, kind of how that’s progressed, the ability to pass through price to your customers and then as you think about negotiating new deals with your existing leagues but also potential new ones?

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Ryan. Carsten here. So, as you see in the numbers, we very successfully integrated ATP and NBA, the new contract, in our portfolio. And as you see in the U.S.

numbers, we exactly and reached and overreached what we had in mind. So, we could upsell more of the players in the market with the ATP content, specifically here in this case, we believe. So, we have the effect from our strong position in the market that we can leverage this and upsell based on this content. And as you see in the growth and as you see in the adjusted EBITDA, we compensated the up-step in the sports rights like predicted, and we demonstrate here a very strong performance with the new properties.

We are very happy looking into the next years because, as we all know, we have the amortization linear for many years in case of NBA now still a seven years to go in case of ATP of five years. So, we will profit with the strong growth year over year because the cost base is linear and similar to this year.

Ryan Sigdahl — Craig-Hallum Capital Group — Analyst

Very good. For my second question. Just curious on guidance. So nice to see kind of strong results in Q1 raising your expectations for the year.

I guess the beat on Q1 versus street expectations was bigger than you’re flowing through to the guidance. Maybe that is just a little bit of management versus street expectations on kind of a quarterly basis. But anything to be aware of from a cost standpoint or anything kind of throughout the rest of the year on kind of Q1 versus the guide?

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

Ryan, it’s Ger. Listen, as we said, very happy with the Q1 performance, both top and bottom. And I think even more importantly, how we see the year unfolding. Our decision was to release an extra point of growth on revenues and EBITDA through to our — our updated outlook.

In terms of the spend side of things, there was — there was a bit of phasing. We had some credits from a cloud service point of view that hit the quarter where we expected them to turn up mid-year. And, you know, there is a little bit of phasing in terms of how some of our projects are rolling out. But, as you saw, we’re quite happy with how the year is unfolding.

And we’ll see when we get through the end of Q2 to see if there’s more that we can release into the full year.

Ryan Sigdahl — Craig-Hallum Capital Group — Analyst

Any way to quantify that, Ger? If not, that’s OK. Thanks, guys. Good luck. Nice job.

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

It’s in the — it’s around 5 million to 6 million, you know, from an EBITDA perspective that you’ll see sort of blended into the second half of the year.

Ryan Sigdahl — Craig-Hallum Capital Group — Analyst

Very good. Well done, guys.

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

And thank you for my endeavors.

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Graham with Canaccord. Your line is open.

Michael Graham — Canaccord Genuity — Analyst

Thanks a lot, and congrats on the strong performance. I wanted to ask two questions. The first is just with the appointment of Behshad as chief technology and AI officer. Just interested in how you see the benefits of that initiative, either in terms of growth or in enhanced profitability.

Just maybe talk about the key leverage points there. And then somewhat related to that, just maybe at a high level, talk about the building blocks to get from where you are now in terms of EBITDA margin closer to your long-term target of 25% to 30%.

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Michael. Carsten here. I’ll take the first part and leave then the building blocks to Ger. I’m super proud and very excited that we could convince a professional like Behshad to join our company, knowing that he was really the driving force behind Google’s European activities in AI, driving a product like Google Lens and a couple of other things.

I mentioned it in the call. You can imagine how proud we are that we could convince him to run our business. So, given this, you see MTS’s performance is strongly up. Alpha Odds is generating a 15% higher profit, which is sensational on trading, comparing it to what we have at the moment.

So, it’s all about to build the engine to ingest massive data on all levels, the fan data, the liquidity information, which is there, and of course, the real-time sports data and then use this in the products to generate the value for our clients. So, there is lots to come, a lot of new products which we mentioned a couple of them. And Behshad will drive this development. The abilities which you have with AI is very hard to predict for the next few years.

But one thing is very sure. This is a core technology to be deployed, and we have now set up, which is making us, by far, the strongest in the market. Handing over to Ger.

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. No, in terms of the operating leverage, you know, the way we think about the business if you sort of break down, the spend, you’ve got your sports rights, which, this year, is a material step up. But as we look to the out years, we see the sports rights cost base to be a more stable cost base, which will obviously give us the ability to leverage that from an operating leverage point of view. But the big-ticket items starting at the highest numbers are — is our people and talent.

That’s the largest spend in the company in terms of our personnel costs. And then next will be sports rights, and then you’ve got all other operating spend and cost of sales. Those lines, as you saw this year, given the actions we’ve taken and our continuing revenue growth, are delivering at least five points of operating leverage, which is offsetting the step-up in sports rights this year. If you think about all of those lines going into ’25 and ’26 and ’27, our expectation is that our revenue growth will be ahead of the growth that will be in those lines.

And and those lines will meaningfully help us get to our long-term goals of between 25% and 30% EBITDA margins. So, the sort of the key to it all is having a more normalized level of sports rights and then continuing to drive operating leverage across all lines.

Michael Graham — Canaccord Genuity — Analyst

All right, perfect. Thanks so much.

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Robin Farley with UBS. Your line is open.

Robin Farley — UBS — Analyst

Great. Thanks. I know you mentioned some, I guess, credit that came in in Q1 that you had expected later in the year, so there was some timing shift. But if we just look at the full-year raise, your revenues up 10 million, the guidance and the EBITDA up 2 million.

So, just wanted to ask how we should think about flow through. In other words, are there — so, revenue is coming in better than you thought, but it seems like expenses are as well coming in a little bit offsetting some of that incremental 10 million. So, if you could just help us think about that flow through. And then my other question is — you were talking about sports rights being fairly fixed going forward.

Can you talk to us about how Major League Baseball may impact that? And I don’t know if that’s something you’ll quantify. I know you don’t — you haven’t officially come out with anything on that, but how we should think about that impacting your outlook if those sports rights costs go up. Thanks.

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. For now, Robin, we — so, we made the decision to give a percentage point uplift in our growth for top and bottom. I think in terms of the revenue performance, as we said, we saw a very nice pickup in ATP, both in absolute terms but also in terms of the mix. And you will see that our sports rights were obviously up.

And so, when you think about flow through, there is a correlation there in terms of the sports rights cost and the ramp of the revenue. As we progress through these contracts, obviously, the flow through gets a lot better. And so, you’ll see the contribution to margin expansion in the out years. But as we look at it now, it’s not — it was not a high flow through in terms of the — that you would expect in a more normalized situation.

But again, we’re giving you an extra point. We’re holding the margin. We’ll see how we land middle of the year. And yeah, we’ll take it from there.

But the key point I’d like to reemphasize is we love where our fundamentals are, and we like the way the year is unfolding.

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

And to the second part, Robin, MLB, there is nothing to be announced today. But we have — we are very confident that we can grow and extend our relationship with the MLB in the very soon future. They are very valued partner for us, like many others, NBA, NHL as a sample, or also UEFA. So, we have a very strong portfolio as we said a couple of times.

We see nothing material, nothing which is upcoming in the next couple of years, which is not predicted. So, we have a stable portfolio. We can monetize on this. We will always look to the ROI when we invest into new sports rights, and we will execute ruthless on this.

So, if we have sports rights where we believe they are contributing to our margin, we will look into this. But the portfolio which we have is long term is very stable, and is big enough that we can deliver the numbers. So, we will do this very selectively with new sports rights but always looking to the return of investment.

Robin Farley — UBS — Analyst

OK, great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Bernie McTernan with Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Stefanos Crist — Needham and Company — Analyst

Good morning. This is Stefanos Crist calling in for Bernie. Thanks for taking our questions. Just wanted to ask on the new revenue groups.

Could you talk about the difference in incremental margins between the two? Thanks.

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

The — actually, from a margin profile perspective, they’re not dramatically different. I think the — obviously, the difference between the two groupings is the critical masses are core betting. It’s data odds, MTS, and there’s strong flow through there. The secondary group, which has sports solutions, media, is slightly less, but we do see opportunities to grow those revenue streams in the future, in particular.

When we look at advertising, that could improve the overall margin profile over the long term. But right now, yeah, the — our betting solutions group is obviously a higher margin, but it’s not dramatically different.

Stefanos Crist — Needham and Company — Analyst

Got it. Thank you. And just to follow up, sports betting accelerated in the quarter year over year. You talked about the major drivers, but do you expect revenue to continue to accelerate in your guidance?

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

Well, we’ve given you the guidance, the increase in terms of the extra percentage point. But yes, year over year, I think all the quarters, you’re going to see strong growth.

Stefanos Crist — Needham and Company — Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Hickey with The Benchmark Company. Your line is open.

Mike Hickey — The Benchmark Company — Analyst

Hey, Carsten, Ger, Jim. Great quarter, guys. Thanks for taking our questions. Good luck, Ger.

Will miss you. Thanks for the memories, bud. I guess the question is on the U.S. regulatory environment.

It certainly looks like the pressure is starting to ramp here. And obviously, Carsten, you’ve run a global business for a couple of decades here, so I think you have a pretty good view on how regulatory change can sort of creep into mature markets. Obviously, we’re far from mature, but we’re starting to see a little bit of pressure. Just sort of curious how you think it’s going to play out in the U.S., how it could impact your business, and how you’re thinking about maybe proactive steps that you can take as a partner with operators and sort of a service to the industry and sort of getting in front, maybe sort of self-correcting and avoiding any potential federal or state oversight more than we have.

Thanks, guys.

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Michael. So, looking now to the U.S. market regulatory environment and the changes in some states, we see, at the moment, no negative impact on our business. We understand from all our partners that this is a constant process.

And if I’m looking now back on all the years I’m in this business, that’s quite useful. You need to find your way. You need to find what is the sweet spot, where to go, what are the rules, and the values which are critical for everybody. For example, responsible gaming is very important.

Taxation is very important for the states. I’m very confident that we will find here the right way. And as I said, at the moment, there is no negative impact on us. And it’s a moderation.

It’s constant talk with all the players in that market, the sport, the governments, the regulators and, of course, also our partners in the industry. And that’s what we are doing. So, I’m very confident that this will continue to develop in the right way. And by the way, as a remark, I was traveling in Brazil three weeks ago having there also many talks with the finance minister, all the sports, which are in there and all the players in the market.

It’s a pretty similar plot, much more early stage than the U.S., but it takes a while to moderate this to find the best way to satisfy all interest groups.

Mike Hickey — The Benchmark Company — Analyst

Nice. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from David Katz with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Unknown speaker

Hey, guys. This is [Inaudible] for David Katz. Congrats on the quarter, and thanks for taking my question. There’s been an unstated focus on core products.

Could you describe how you’re thinking about what is core and what isn’t, as in what stays and goes and what are the financial implications? Thank you.

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

Well, we are looking on the product ROI. That’s the most important for us. That’s where we want to deploy our capital. And so, looking now to the products, you will see a lot of activities around innovative products, which are driven by ingesting massive deep data and creating value for our clients.

So, you will see investments from us in that space because they simply deliver the highest return. We will look for our operational leverage like we demonstrated it now in the U.S. marketplace with some properties and content. ATP is a perfect example of how we can use our engine to massively distribute this kind of content.

So, we will see some investments there, always with the reminder we are looking to the product ROI if we buy those properties. So, this is our core focus area. Looking now to the whole ecosystem and to broaden it a little bit, it is very exciting to use fan information for marketing activities to generate leads for our clients and, of course, then to create following up the trading services and probability predictions from them for those sports fans. So, we are just closing that circle, using all the information which we have to provide additional value for our clients.

Unknown speaker

Great, That’s all for me. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jordan Bender with Citizens JMP. Your line is open.

Jordan Bender — JMP Securities — Analyst

Great. Good morning. Thanks for the question. There seems to be a lot of positive momentum coming from the NBA.

Can you maybe just breakdown some of those factors, the inputs going in there, maybe between increased volume or some of the pricing or even shift in play and how those are kind of translating to some of the positive commentary coming out of that? And then for the follow-up, when we think about the path to your EBITDA margin target of 25%-plus, do you have all the pieces in place today, maybe from even a technology or a footprint base to kind of achieve those targets? Thank you.

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

Well, I’ll take the first part. That’s the question with the NBA. It was a hard work during the last 12 months to convince the market with our new NBA contract to get this locked in. As you see in the numbers, we have been very successful with this.

Now, it is how can we create value with the enhanced partnership. As you know, we have now deep data from the NBA, and we can use this in product flight foresight or, much more important, in the trading products, in Alpha Odds. So, we get now significantly better real-time information, and we can visualize this. And we have products on all levels.

Like we said last time with the lead press, we have now a product that we can put into the live screen to odds directly and stimulate the players. And that’s very successful. So, this is something where we see a huge potential in the future. I could speak hours about this.

But looking now forward for the next couple of years, there is a lot of leverage what we can unlock with the NBA as being one of the premium sports properties in the U.S.

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

In terms of thinking about the operating leverage, all the ingredients are — they’re effectively in the building, and there’s a little bit of timing here. When you look at our core execution in 2024, it’s all about continuing to drive the core product offering and recurring revenue streams and then layering in ATP, NBA and the run rate benefits of other clients like the Taiwanese lottery. As you go into ’25 and ’26, it continues to focus on driving the core growth. From an investment point of view, continuing to enhance our product portfolio, whether it’s rationalizing based on ROI, as Carsten said, our core that we have today, layering in new products like Alpha Odds and emBET and continuing to bring additional products to market driven off deep data and other technology innovations.

So, that’s all embedded into the overall operating model. And as I said earlier, as long as we maintain our focus on the level of growth that you see in our people costs, as we continue to invest in our teams and all other operating spend, and we continue to drive what is a more stable sports rights base, yes, we’ll add to it, but not the same material that you saw in ’24. Then you will start to see the points of margin flow through to the P&L. TBD how long it will take us to get to the ultimate goal of 25%, 30%.

But it’s not that far away.

Jordan Bender — JMP Securities — Analyst

Great. Thanks, Ger, and best of luck.

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

Thank you.

Jim Bombassei — Head of Investor Relations

Michelle, we’ll take our last question.

Operator

Thank you. Our last question comes from Shaun Kelley with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Shaun Kelley — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Hi, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about pricing. Just as we think about the contracts and the new NBA contract, my question is simply, do we see an increase in pricing that is kind of a one-time movement, i.e.

are you changing the contractual rates with your customers that move up and is going to be recognized as sort of the data as we see the data rights come in, or is a little bit more — is everything more revenue share, and that’ll kind of — so we should see continued commensurate growth of what we’re seeing now as we move out into the latter part of the year and more into 2025? Thanks.

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Shaun. So, this is Carsten. The core thing here is looking now to the existing model, which we have in the U.S., its revenue share as we all know. So, we will grow with the market for the existing product.

I think it will never work to overstretch the pricing. We’re going to need to create value with innovative solutions, which are providing that value back for our clients. Alpha Odds is a perfect example, so we can simply generate higher profits. Then our clients can do this with ingesting more data into the engine and helping them to uplift it.

So, that’s the way where we see a lot of growth potential. Foresight is a sample where we can use NBA. We are working here with the League Pass. To give you a number on the League Pass for the more than 600 matches which we played out there with the solution, we had an engagement rate of 3.7%, meaning 3.7% of all the people, which had seen this going into a transaction.

This is, from a marketing purpose or marketing view, a sensational rate. Usually, the rate is significantly lower than 1%. That sees a 300% uplift for the users of the League Pass and for the operator who is providing the odds here. That’s generating pure value for all the players.

This is very powerful. Looking now into, yes, we have a good situation. We are sitting on three of the big four leagues in the U.S. with, by far, the biggest client base and distribution base there.

We can leverage a little bit on the pricing, but our core focus is to create value with new products, which I mentioned a few of them.

Shaun Kelley — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Perfect. Thanks, Carsten. And then my follow-up would just be on Brazil. You obviously mentioned this.

And what’s the experience when a new — a significant new market like this opens up or moves into regulatory. Are you already in Brazil or should we expect a bigger step function as you’re able to do deals with maybe operators that you haven’t done deals with before? Thanks.

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

I was personally there, Shaun, three weeks ago. So, the experience was interesting with five bodyguards in Sao Paulo, which we had there on the ground. It’s a wide market. It’s a very exciting market.

By the way, it was not necessary, all these security measurements, which have been there. Very friendly environment, people which are very passionate about the sport. Main sport there is, as we all know, soccer. A lot of development opportunities, a lot of activities.

The federal government licensed or liberalized sports betting in December. So, in June, we will see now a process starting that the first operators get official license, generate taxes for the state. And it was very important for me to speak there with all stakeholders, finance ministry, speaking with the sport, with representatives from the club and from the leagues which are there. And then, of course, speaking with the operators, the foreign operators and the local operators, which are their boots on the ground.

Understanding their needs is essential to create the right setup. We have a people team down there. Already, we have a legal setup there, and we are investing in that market opportunity. Looking from a size perspective, we believe that this is growing from a 2 billion GGR to round about 5 billion to 6 billion in the next three years.

It’s early days, as I said, and we are coming up with a complete strategy. But we are very interested to expand our footprint in Brazil and to use this growth opportunity.

Shaun Kelley — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Thank you, everyone. And good luck, Ger. Appreciate the time.

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

Jim Bombassei — Head of Investor Relations

We want to thank everyone for joining our earnings call. Michelle, I’ll turn it back over to you.

Operator

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Call participants:

Jim Bombassei — Head of Investor Relations

Carsten Koerl — Chief Executive Officer

Ger Griffin — Chief Financial Officer

Ryan Sigdahl — Craig-Hallum Capital Group — Analyst

Michael Graham — Canaccord Genuity — Analyst

Robin Farley — UBS — Analyst

Stefanos Crist — Needham and Company — Analyst

Mike Hickey — The Benchmark Company — Analyst

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Jordan Bender — JMP Securities — Analyst

Shaun Kelley — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

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