Maravai LifeSciences (MRVI) Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Maravai LifeSciences (MRVI 0.11%)
Q2 2024 Earnings Call
Aug 07, 2024, 5:00 p.m. ET

Contents:

• Prepared Remarks
• Questions and Answers
• Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Maravai LifeSciences second-quarter 2024 earnings conference call. [Operator instructions] Thank you. I’d now like to turn the call over to Debra Hart, head of investor relations. You may begin.

Deb Hart — Head of Investor Relations

Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for joining us on our second-quarter 2024 earnings call. Our press release and the slides that accompany today’s call are posted on our website and available at investors.maravai.com. As you can see on our agenda for today on Slide 2, Trey will provide a business update and Kevin will review our financial results and guidance.

Drew Burch, president of Nucleic Acid Production, and Becky Buzzeo, our chief commercial officer, will join the call for the question-and-answer session following the prepared remarks. During today’s call, management will make forward-looking statements. It is possible that actual results could differ from management’s expectations. We refer you to Slide 3 for more detail on forward-looking statements.

Also, during this call, we will be referring to certain financial measures not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, or GAAP. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in the press release and also posted to the Investor section of our website. Please also refer to Maravai’s SEC filing for additional information on the risks and uncertainties that may impact our operating results, performance, and financial condition. Now I’ll turn the call over to Trey.

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Deb, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for our call today. Let me briefly recap the quarter, share an update on our new Flanders facilities, highlight some innovative new products we introduced, and provide a few additional business updates before turning the call over to Kevin. Let’s start with our second-quarter results on Slide 5.

Today, we reported $73 million in revenue for Q2, $17 million in total adjusted EBITDA, and $0 in adjusted fully diluted EPS for the quarter. Our Nucleic Acid Production segment had revenue of $58 million in Q2. The Biologic Safety Testing revenue was $15 million in the second quarter. Kevin will go into more detail on the financial results later in the call.

Slide 6 shows our cash on hand at the end of the quarter was $573 million, up about $11 million from Q1. Debt is $530 million gross, thus, we maintain a $43 million net cash position. We remain in a great position to fund our long-term growth strategy through organic investments while simultaneously pursuing external partnerships and/or M&A. Regarding organic investments, let me provide an update on our two Flanders facilities.

I’m excited to share that our Flanders facilities are truly coming alive. Flanders 1 started initial engineering runs in April, and our team has continued to hit all key milestones to ensure we complete our commitments to BARDA and the U.S. government. On Slide 7, you’ll see a photo of one of the four cleanrooms at Flanders 1.

This was taken during the recently completed engineering run to produce GMP CleanCap M6. Other milestones we’ve achieved for our Flanders 1 facility include our environmental monitoring process qualification, or EMPQ, and our ISO 9001 certification. Flanders 1 adds significant scale and mitigates operational risk as we now have multi-site capacity to manufacture cGMP small molecules in the United States. This includes the CleanCap analogs as well as other nucleic acid chemistries like rNTPs and N1-Methylpseudouridine, which are also needed as clinical-grade inputs for mRNA production.

Turning to Slide 8. Our Flanders 2 teams produced the first batch of mRNA in the facility through the successful TriLink internal engineering run, demonstrating our ability to bring TriLink’s best-in-class RNA manufacturing processes to our phase 2 and phase 3 mRNA service customers. In addition, the cGMP manufacturing environments at the Flanders 2 facilities have also completed their EMPQs and initial data review of our primary manufacturing suites for use in late phase and commercial manufacturing campaigns. This is a very important step to ensure the facility meets the stringent regulatory requirements our customers have for their clinical material.

TriLink is committed to combining our innovation in mRNA manufacturing with the compliance needed for late phase and commercial manufacturing. This marks the beginning of how we can enable the advancement of life-changing medicines for patients worldwide. I’m also really pleased by our commercial team’s success in winning RFPs for Flanders 2 CDMO services for builds that start in the second half of 2024. One customer whose RFP v1 for a pivotal trial has already stated an intent to work with TriLink on additional products in their pipeline to service their early phase clinical manufacturing needs.

Being the first customer in a brand-new facility is not an easy decision. But the combination of our investments in plant design, consultations on regulatory requirements, and our experienced teams have eased any of the customer concerns. TriLink has manufactured over 100 GMP batches with over 70 different constructs, and we’ve made over 16,000 RUO constructs for thousands of clients. We are in a unique position to be a strategic value to our customers at any stage of their journey.

Our customers continue to trust in our expertise, in our manufacturing, and analytics, along with our new state-of-the-art mRNA plant are the key elements in winning these deals. TriLink is committed to providing innovative solutions to mRNA drug development from early discovery through preclinicals and now through late phase and commercial service to complement our products. TriLink has also established its Analytical Sciences Center of Excellence, or ASCE, reinforcing our commitment to mRNA innovation. The ASCE will serve as the hub for analytical development where assays and tests will be available to our customers.

ASCE is closely linked with every manufacturing site, including the new Flanders facilities, with redundancies and equipment so that test methods can easily be transferred and product release occurs at the site of manufacturing. The ASCE also expands the capacity of TriLink’s Analytical Services Group, opening the possibility for a new business associated with nucleic acid product testing. Let’s move to Slide 9 and our Nucleic Acid Production segment. I’ll highlight our new product portfolio expansion and our focus on bringing these products to market.

NPIs, or new product introductions, are a key strategic priority for us, and I’m pleased with the progress we’ve seen to date. The TriLink team enhanced our catalog mRNA offerings, repositioned custom chemistry services, developed offerings for our GMP rNTP platform, and launched catalog IVT enzymes into the TriLink commercial ecosystem. Let’s take each of those in order. As we touched on last quarter’s call, we recently launched new catalog mRNA products with our TriLink discovery group using the CleanCap M6 and N1-Methylpseudouridine.

We’ve now completed that catalog refresh and upgraded our existing catalog with our most up-to-date CleanScript IVT process. Since the launch, sales have exceeded our expectations for these new products, so we’re very pleased by the market response. Our custom chemistry offering has been repositioned to improve how quickly our customers can interact with us and get the custom nucleic acids they need. The team tackled a few key areas, the most notable being our turnaround time, cutting that quote to cash process and half.

Overall, we believe the improvements enable both existing and new customers to easily choose us and have a great experience to help them advance their discoveries. In Q2, we launched both RUO and GMP nucleotide triphosphates or NTPs. When our customers come to us for their mRNA raw materials as they start discovery, it’s important for them to know that we can continue to support them with GMP-grade materials produced here in the U.S. as they scale and move into the clinic.

This effort showcases our capabilities to do just that with a GMP platform for standard and custom molecules. As our customers advance their development, we can move with them, scaling from production in Wateridge to production in Flanders and with the confidence of high-quality productivity and our expertise. Expanding our portfolio across these materials better enables us to support our customers and unlock the potential of genomic medicine. During the last week of June, we launched our IVT enzymes under the TriLink brand, an important effort across both TriLink and Alphazyme.

We’ve already incorporated Alphazyme enzymes into our CleanScript mRNA production workflow and now have extended the enzyme product offering to our TriLink customers. By offering these enzymes at a single point of sale with our CleanCap technology, along with modified and unmodified NTPs, we’ve made it easier for our customers to access the breadth of differentiated mRNA production inputs and for us to gain a greater share of wallet. As you can see on Slide 10, TriLink is able to supply all the key inputs for the IVT mRNA production process, all produced in our U.S.-based facilities. We have four CleanCap options, and starting this quarter, we will offer M6 as a GMP input.

Our CleanCap franchise is patent protected for CleanCap materials and methods in all major markets in the world. And we’re continuing to innovate with R&D on new mRNA capping analogs while continuing to protect the franchise with new and continuing patent applications. We have N1-Methylpseudouridine, and as I just mentioned, we now have the wild-type rNTPs and a process for scaling up other modified NTPs into GMP production. And finally, we offer the enzymes that are used in the process.

So by having all the key inputs for IVT, we enhance the simplicity of doing business with TriLink. We can support the full workflow with innovation across the in vitro transcription inputs and continuous improvement to the IVT production process itself. Turning to Slide 11. Glen Research also launched 5 new products in our 59th Glen Report, expanding our tools for genomic research and diagnostics.

This includes 4 new serinol nucleic acids that expand our options for DNA and RNA backbone modifications. SNA oligos will hybridize with SNA, RNA as well as DNA. These oligos are nuclease resistant and have been used in guide strands for CRISPR, molecular beacons, and other applications. I continue to be impressed by customer feedback regarding Glen Research’s industry-leading promptness, responsiveness, quality, and commitment to excellence.

Turning to Slide 12. We continue to bolster our market leadership in the mRNA space through collaborations and strategic partnerships. In Q2, we announced a collaboration with Johns Hopkins University to establish a new mRNA innovation center. TriLink’s investment in the partnership includes funding for the center and enables Hopkins researchers to use CleanCap and our in vitro transcription technology, CleanScript.

Additionally, TriLink will provide technical expertise and access to other critical discovery and manufacturing supplies, further lowering the barriers to discovery and application of mRNA. The center will bring together Johns Hopkins experts in RNA biology, genetic medicine, drug delivery, and biotechnology under one roof. We expect it will serve as a training center for the next generation of RNA investigators and is a hub for RNA researchers across the Hopkins network. Our continued key academic partnerships are helping to enhance innovation and are designed to accelerate market adoption of our latest technology and products.

In addition to the JHU agreement, we have seven active research collaborations with top-tier academic institutions, including a new collaboration with the Houston Methodist Research Institute. We shared with you during our last call that Alphazyme was collaborating with Applied DNA for scale-up manufacturing, enabling the Linea RNA polymerase. They have recently completed the process development project, which resulted in over 70% reduction in Linea RNA polymerase manufacturing costs and the manufacture of a quantity of enzyme sufficient to support Applied DNA’s anticipated demand for critical starting material for production. We developed the full enzyme production process and the breakthroughs in the manufacturing workflow that allowed Applied DNA to enter the market with a fully compliant quality product and a cost structure that enables the Linea platform to be highly competitive.

We believe that investing in new product innovation and partnering with leading academic and industry partners is a key driver for creating long-term value. We are exceptionally positioned to win customers early for product and technology adoption. Now let’s turn to Slide 13 and our Biologic Safety Testing business, updates under the Cygnus technology brand. As with the nucleic acid segment, we continue to innovate to bring improved products to market to support our customers.

Cygnus Technologies recently launched 3 new products, including our second E. coli host cell protein kit for the BL21 variant used for recombinant protein expression, our first fungal cell line host cell protein kit, and our Protein L Mix-N-Go Kit, the first residual Protein L ELISA on the market. The E. coli kit was developed for a specific strain of E.

coli used for recombinant protein expression and is the only kit on the market for this specific strength. The fungal line HCP kit was developed in partnership with Dyadic International. The assay is expected to play an important role in facilitating the broad adoption of Dyadic C1 protein production platform, which enables rapid and efficient low-cost production of antigens, monoclonal antibodies, and other therapeutic proteins. We believe this partnership will help accelerate the adoption of the C1 platform, ultimately aiming to enhance access and affordability of healthcare for patients in developed and developing countries.

The Protein L kit, which is highlighted on Slide 14, will be used for affinity purification on next-generation antibodies, including bispecific antibodies, tri-specific antibodies, and fragment antigen-binding antibodies, or Fabs. There are over 100 bispecific antibodies in clinical development, most in the early stages. Since 2014, the FDA has approved 9 bispecific marketing applications to treat cancer as well as hematologic and ocular diseases. In the future, the FDA anticipates there will be a spectrum of bispecific antibodies developed to prevent, treat or diagnose diseases.

For comparison, since 1986, the FDA approved over 100 full-length monoclonal antibodies. Full-length mAbs are purified with protein as A resins. Bispecific antibodies are purified with Protein L resins. Given the number of bispecific antibodies in development, we believe there’s high growth potential for Protein L resin, and thus, we’re pleased to introduce our residual Protein L quantification assay, the Protein L Mix-N-Go ELISA Kit.

As we celebrate our one-year anniversary of occupancy in our new Leland facility, we’re proud to announce the completion of our new DNA laboratory. This 800-square-foot full-service space is BSL-2 compliant with segregated areas for development, manufacturing, and cold storage. This new lab provides the dedicated space and capabilities for the development of our new line of DNA detection kits, demonstrating our commitment to continuously improve and broaden our best-in-class portfolio of host cell detection products. Finally, we’re pleased that Cygnus was recently featured in BioPharm International for our cutting-edge antibody affinity extraction method.

As in the NAP segment, we plan to continuously improve our offerings in BST to ensure differentiated solutions, superior technical support, the highest quality services and offerings, and the most comprehensive catalog of products to meet our customers’ needs. Now moving to Slide 15 and our commitment to deliver unquestionable quality. TriLink, Cygnus, Glen, and Alphazyme all recently hosted successful ISO audits. These always require tremendous effort from the quality team members as well as many others on site.

I was really pleased to hear how positive and complementary the feedback was from our auditors about every process, system, site, instrument, and person involved. Quality is a central Maravai objective, and the zero major observations and successful certification to ISO standards in each of the audits is a testament to our adherence to high-quality standards. Before I turn the call over to Kevin, I’d like to let you know that in early July, we published our third environmental, social, and governance report. Without question, our commitment to ESG goes hand-in-hand with achieving our company’s long-term strategic objectives.

On Slide 16, you’ll find some highlights from the report. This new report covers the 2023 fiscal year and provides an expansive look into our evolving ESG program with tangible examples of how we’re making a positive impact on our stakeholders and positioning our business for sustainable growth. A key ESG advancement was expanding our environmental disclosures to include select Scope 3 greenhouse gas emissions. These advancements will enable Maravai to better evaluate how to make meaningful emissions reductions in the future.

I encourage you to review the report in the Investors section of our website. The comprehensive 50-page report is the accumulation of our enterprisewide effort to deliver holistic value to our stakeholders while scaling operations and executing our return-to-growth strategy in a socially and environmentally responsible manner. Along with the safety and quality of our products, we are proud of our ESG advancements and are working meticulously to increase transparency and build the infrastructure necessary to support long-term sustainable growth. This team has done important work to date, and we are committed to being a strong corporate citizen.

We look forward to keeping you apprised of our journey. Moving to Slide 17. I’ll now ask Kevin to provide more details on our second-quarter performance and our expectations for the balance of the year. Kevin?

Kevin Herde — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Appreciate it, Trey. Certainly, it was a very busy quarter for Maravai as we continued to broaden and deepen our overall capabilities and offerings. I want to recognize the efforts of our entire team for not only delivering over $73 million in revenues in the quarter, but also the numerous operational and R&D accomplishments in the quarter which demonstrate the commitment and strength of our employees. Now let’s dig into the Q2 financial results, starting on Slide 18.

Revenue for the quarter was $73 million. Our GAAP net loss before non-controlling interests was $14 million for the second quarter of 2024. This compares to a net loss of $12 million for the second quarter of 2023. Adjusted EBITDA, a non-GAAP measure, was $17 million for Q2 2024 compared to $9 million for Q2 2023.

Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 23% in Q2 2024, up from the 13% in Q2 2023 and up from the first quarter of 2024’s adjusted EBITDA margin of 12%. Overall, while the EBITDA margin in our second quarter was solid, it trailed our expectations. As we have seen over the past 6 quarters, both our revenues, which have ranged from $64 million to $79 million, and our adjusted EBITDA margins, which have ranged from 12% to 30%, have shown a fair amount of variability. For the trailing 12 months, our adjusted EBITDA margin stands at 21% on revenues of $279 million.

While I reckon many of your questions will be focused on margins, let me spend some time discussing this topic on Slide 19. As we look back, when we last achieved revenues near this level, we only have to look back to Q4 2023 in which revenues were $74.1 million and our adjusted EBITDA was 28% — 27.7% to be exact, which was 470 basis points higher than this current Q2 2024 performance. I will spend a few moments broadly reconciling to that data point and discussing some of our profitability dynamics. First, our overall product mix and related contribution was the primary item in this bridge, and frankly, the largest contributor to the variance to our internal expectations.

Our BST business, which we expected to decline about $1 million from its strong Q1 2024 performance, declined more than anticipated, ending the quarter at $15 million, or $3 million below Q1. That variance, combined with lower absorption at our BST manufacturing facility, led to about $2 million in lower adjusted EBITDA as compared to Q4 2023. This is roughly a 270 basis point impact. The second item to detail represents our higher start-up costs and preparedness expenses tied to our new Flanders facility.

These costs totaled $2.5 million in the quarter, up from $1 million in Q4 2023. This $1.5 million incremental expense was primarily tied to third-party consultants that have completed most of their work. This impacted the EBITDA margin by approximately 200 basis points in Q2 2024 versus Q4 2023. Lastly, Q2 2024 contained incremental expenses in our R&D efforts and costs associated with our Johns Hopkins collaboration.

These items were roughly $1 million in total, or about 150 basis points of impact. So to sum up those items, they total around 620 basis points of margin impact versus Q4 2023 levels. Now offsetting some of that dilutive impact of the aforementioned items was the benefit of our cost-saving actions. The net impact of all other items, which in total provide 150 basis points of benefit, completing the 470 basis point walk-down from the Q4 2024 EBITDA margins.

I will speak more to our margin and our updated 2024 guidance section in a bit. Moving to Slide 20 and EPS. Basic and diluted EPS for the second quarter was a loss of $0.05 per share, the same as Q2 2023. Adjusted EPS was 0 for the quarter, also consistent with the prior year second quarter.

Moving forward to the year-end balance sheet, cash flow and other financial metrics on Slide 21. As Trey mentioned, we ended the quarter with $573 million in cash, up $11 million from the end of Q1 2024, and $530 million in long-term debt, resulting in a $43 million net cash position. For Q2 2024, cash provided by operations was $17 million. Capital expenditures, net of BARDA reimbursements, were $6 million in the quarter, a bit lighter than anticipated based on the timing with the final outfitting stage of some of our Flanders buildings.

Depreciation and amortization was $12 million in the quarter, which is in line with our expectations and annualized guidance. Interest expense net of interest income was $5 million in the quarter, consistent with our expectations. Stock-based compensation and non-cash charge was $14 million for the quarter, also in line with our expectations. Now we ended Q2 with 141 million Class A shares outstanding and 111 million Class B shares outstanding for a total of 252 million shares outstanding.

The fully diluted share count impacting our adjusted EPS metrics was 254 million total shares in the quarter and 253 million total shares on a year-to-date basis. Next to Slide 22 and the discussion of segment performance in the quarter. Our Nucleic Acid Production segment, which includes both our discovery and GMP products and services marketed under our TriLink, Glen Research, and Alphazyme brands, had revenues in the second quarter of $58 million and adjusted EBITDA of $21 million, a margin of 36%. Our Biologics Safety Testing segment, which includes products from our Cygnus brand, had revenues of $15 million in the second quarter and adjusted EBITDA of $9 million, an adjusted EBITDA margin of 63%, lower than recent trends, as previously mentioned.

Corporate shared service expenses impacting adjusted EBITDA totaled $14 million in the second quarter, down over $1.6 million from the comparable second quarter of 2023. Overall, Q2 was solid with revenue in line with our expectations, margins slightly below as a result of a few specific items as discussed, and a continued solid balance sheet and cash flow performance. So with half of 2024 in the books, let me now detail how we are now thinking about the full year of 2024 on Slide 23. Based on Q2 revenues being in line with our expectations and our current assessment of the likely range of revenue outcomes for the year, we remain comfortable with the existing 2024 total revenue range of $265 million to $285 million.

Looking at the segments. Our Biologics Safety Testing business printed a strong $18 million in the first quarter but was followed by a weaker than expected Q2 based upon some lingering uncertainty in China. Based on the first half and the outlook for the second half, we now see the BST segment up in the low single digits for 2024. After taking this estimated performance for the BST business, the NAP segment will be roughly around $210 million at the midpoint of our revenue guidance for 2024, with the sensitivities to this midpoint mostly around the performance of our TriLink-branded discovery business and the expense and timing of GMP-related service revenues in the second half of 2024.

As for the gating of revenue, with $138 million in first-half revenues and a $275 million midpoint of our range, this sets second half at $137 million at the midpoint, or about $68 million to $69 million per quarter, and we see Q3 likely in that $65 million to $70 million range. Now we see the profitability metrics likely lower than our initial guidance for 2024 that we left unchanged after Q1. We now see the adjusted EBITDA margin expectations of 20% to 22% and our full-year adjusted EPS in the range of a $0.02 loss to an $0.08 loss per share. This 300 basis point reduction in our estimated adjusted EBITDA margin stems mostly from our product mix, the higher than initially anticipated Flanders start-up costs and the expenses associated with the more recent initiatives that we believe are the right moves for the business, including the Johns Hopkins funding and license deals in our enzyme business unit.

As this implies, given the first-half performance, this results in a second-half adjusted EBITDA margin around 24%, resulting from consistent NAP performance, a step-up in BST revenues from Q2 levels, the completion of the Flanders start-up costs and overall cost control efforts and operating expenses. Our guidance also holds the following expectations in 2024. Interest expense, net of interest income, to be between $20 million and $25 million, a slight improvement from our previous guidance given our tight treasury operations and the continued benefit from our interest rate cap contracts, given the lack of rate cuts. Depreciation and amortization between $45 million and $50 million; equity-based compensation, which we show as a reconciling item from GAAP to non-GAAP EBITDA, to be between $45 million and $50 million; and as a fully converted share count of 254 million shares for the year and an adjusted effective tax rate of 24%.

Finally, we see total net capital expenditures of around $30 million for 2024. So thanks for your time today. I’ll now turn the call back over to Trey.

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Kevin. So to wrap up on Slide 25, we had a solid first half of the year and are tracking against the revenue guidance range we originally communicated to you in March. We are executing on our return to growth strategy and year to date have introduced significant new innovations to the market to further extend our leadership across the entire mRNA production workflow as well as increasing our manufacturing capacity at our TriLink Flanders 1 and Flanders 2 facilities in these high-value areas. Our Cygnus team continues to innovate with new product introductions and market-expanding technologies.

We have incredible and passionate teams across Maravai and the opportunity to do amazing things for human health. Our balance sheet remains strong, and we are well-positioned to execute on opportunities for both organic and inorganic investments to bolster our market position and provide our customers with innovative solutions. We remain confident in the fundamental strength of our end markets and the value we provide our customers for the life-changing development of drug therapies, diagnostics and novel vaccines. We remain committed to building a strong foundation for long-term, diversified, and sustainable growth for our businesses.

I would now like to turn the call back over to the operator to open up the line for your questions. Thank you.

Questions & Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Catherine Schulte from Baird. Your line is open.

Catherine Schulte — Analyst

Hey, guys. Thanks for the questions. First, great to see NAP get back to double-digit growth here in the quarter. Were there any one-timers or lumpy orders that you saw in the second quarter? And then why should we expect to see a sequential decline in revenue in the third quarter? Is that primarily on the NAP side or BST?

Kevin Herde — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. I’m happy to take that, Catherine. Yeah, I would say that as it relates to the sequential slight decline in NAP — it would be in that segment, in the NAP segment. And we do see some of the orders that we had scheduled at the beginning of the year gating that way.

So the second quarter contains some of those kind of high volume CleanCap orders, and that is going to step down a little bit sequentially in the third quarter and result in enacting [Technical Difficulty] We’re hopeful that BST can recover certainly from that low water point that we saw there in the second quarter from [Technical Difficulty]

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

We’ve discussed that dynamic a little bit. One of the interesting things about having GMP services and GMP products is that while GMP services, unfortunately, will tend to move out if there’s movement, sometimes GMP products can come in and go out within the quarter, or in some cases within the month. So we did, as you identified, Catherine, have a little bit of that here in Q2 that the GMP products that slid in that were helpful.

Catherine Schulte — Analyst

OK. Got it. And then maybe for BST, can you just remind us how much of your business is in China? And how is that business performing outside of China?

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Yes. The — you can explain over 80% of the BST results with a China drop specifically. That’s really the only place where we had any China exposure. As you know, the growth in BST China came during the 2021/2022 COVID period, and then, of course, we took that leg down in the second half of 2022.

Since then, honestly, we’ve had 5 very steady quarters. So the drop that happened here in Q2 in BST China specifically was a surprise to us and to our distribution partners, actually. I don’t think that we’ve specifically carved out exposure, but it’s now at, let’s say, in the teens for BST.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Sykes from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Unknown speaker — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Hi. This is [Inaudible] on for Matt. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one, can you talk through what you’re seeing from pharma customers within their discovery R&D spend versus some later-stage projects? Have you seen a reprioritization of spend as companies look to cut costs to maintain investment in their later-stage projects?

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Sure. I think I’ll hand that one to Drew.

Drew Burch — President, Nucleic Acid Productio

Sure. Thanks, Trey. Yes, I think that’s a fair statement. We have seen and we saw that companies publicly, there’s been some reprioritization across the sector.

So it’s a little tough to tie it to one company or another company, but there’s a fair amount of portfolio moves. Overall, we’ve seen positive dynamics in terms of mRNA program starts. And so we think the fundamental backdrop is positive, but each given company may be reprioritizing as they move forward.

Unknown speaker — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

OK. That’s helpful. And then this is more of a broad question on your strategy. So understand the focus is on winning in discovery and then shifting customers to GMP as they move along their pipelines.

But will you try to poach programs as they move from clinical to — or from the discovery to clinical from like players doing it internally?

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I think that’s probably the biggest market opportunity because it’s still early days in mRNA. I think everyone knows that. We’re all excited because of how quickly we saw it go from a concept or the last mile to the billions of doses of vaccines.

But really the ecosystem and the programs that are at play, many of them started in-house and many people still perform the mRNA production process in-house. One of the things we’ve seen, to your point, is the — you hear us talk about what we call our CleanScript workflow, which is the workflow that we’ve done hundreds and hundreds of times here. And very often, we have people who make the choice, having run programs internally, do we go through the trouble of tech transferring our program, or do we just bolt into the well-traveled, CleanScript process, which has already gone for so many programs at different phases. So we actually see that conversion as probably one of the biggest opportunities we have as programs modernize and as we have the opportunity for uptake to bring efficiency to those programs.

Unknown speaker — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tejas Savant from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Tejas Savant — Analyst

Hey, guys. Good evening, and thanks for the time here. A couple of quick ones for you, Trey, to kick things off. Sort of following up on that earlier question on just SMid cap biotech, right? I mean we had a large preclinical CRO this morning take down numbers pretty dramatically in the back half, citing weakness on the global biopharma side as well as on the biotech side.

And so what are you assuming in your back half guide in terms of the early stage sort of biotech contributions? And then can you comment a little bit on the pricing environment that you’re seeing broadly across the space? Is this tougher negotiations? Are you needing to do more discounting here? Just any color on that would be helpful.

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Sure. Thank you. We did have, as we discussed, a large — well, a few large orders come in for GMP products that were for big top pharma. And so within the quarter, that lowered our typical SMid, as you like to say, Tejas, from the high teens to the low teens.

And I think — well, we expect that to moderate out a little bit. It was a rather extreme move in this quarter. But we are not expecting it to grow substantially in the rest of this year’s guidance, if that’s what you’re [Technical Difficulty].

Tejas Savant — Analyst

Got it. And then, Trey, on the pricing?

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Pricing is a function of each individual program. So it’s not quite as simple as where a catalog type company would throw 2% to 3% price in every year. But we see the opportunities to take — we take price opportunities when we can, I’ll put it that way. But they are also not — there’s not a target number specifically that we’re needing to achieve that would be in jeopardy for the rest of the model this year.

Tejas Savant — Analyst

Got it. And Kevin, want to dig in a little bit on EBITDA margin cadence in the back half. A couple of moving pieces here. You’ve got the step-down in high volume CleanCap that you called out and then potentially a little bit of a step-up in BST as well.

Do those two dynamics essentially sort of offset each other as we think about the 3Q versus 4Q? And then is that 4Q number a good jumping-off point off of which we can see sort of steady sequential increases next year? Thank you.

Kevin Herde — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, thanks. To the latter part of your question, certainly, that’s going to be ultimately revenue dependent more than anything else. So we’ll see that margin tied very directly to our revenue hits versus the cost structure that will be pretty stable going into next year, given all of the work we’ve done to complete our facilities footprint. As it relates to the quarterly sequential migration of our EBITDA margin from here, yes, I would say, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, really sort of a normalization of NAP, kind of seeing NAP relatively the same as it was in the first half of the year.

BST hopefully improving and picking up some margin. Then a lot of the costs that were a drag on the margin in the first half start to tail off. So the [Technical Difficulty]. Most of it are items that [Technical Difficulty] as well as some of the things that are related.

[Technical Difficulty] cost saving guide [Technical Difficulty] what model, that slightly higher margin in the second half.

Tejas Savant — Analyst

Got it. Thanks guys. Appreciate the color.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matt Hewitt from Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Matt Hewitt — Analyst

Good afternoon and thank you for taking the questions. Just a heads up, you guys are cutting out pretty bad. I don’t know if it’s just on our end, but there’s quite a bit of pauses in between words. I guess, first up, you noted during your prepared remarks that NTPs manufactured obviously here in the U.S.

How important is that to your customers? Are you seeing some of this repatritization kind of really starting to bear fruit? And what are you hearing from customers regarding that?

Kevin Herde — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes. I think, first of all, I think the sound was a couple of F-35s flying over us here in San Diego. So hopefully you can hear us clearly now. And thank you for the question.

I’m smiling because I would not necessarily have thought it would become such an advantage to have RUO and GMP chemistry manufacturing in San Diego, California, and similarly, enzyme manufacturing in Jupiter, Florida. But we’re seeing a tremendous amount of interest come from those facts. It just happens to be the result of where our business has started and grew up, but it looks like it could become a significant strategic advantage. And we have people not only asking one level deep in the supply chain, but being interested I think for the first time that I’ve noted in how deep in the supply chain they can find out the origin story.

So yes, I think it’s going to actually become a pretty appreciable advantage for us moving forward here.

Matt Hewitt — Analyst

That’s great and that’s good for me. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Justin Bowers from Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Justin Bowers — Analyst

Hi. Good afternoon, everyone. Can you give us a sense of — well, number one, with Flanders 2, do you have that capacity built out now where you want it, or are you still building out additional cleanroom capacity? And then could you give us a sense of what the time line is like for that from when you just initially start adding equipment versus engineering runs versus when you’re actually in revenue generation phase?

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I think as Kevin mentioned, we are really at the tail end here of the capital cycle. And as we mentioned in the comments about the EBITDA bridge, really have had some one-time start-up costs, professional fees and other things to get the facility truly rolling. We are at the same time, however — so the whole rooftop has to open, obviously.

But we are, let’s say, scaling in from a labor perspective and a total overhead perspective as we fill that factory. But there’s no more substantial capex to do to turn on the multiple suites at this. I think we’ve been — we’ve shared this previously, but we have three parallel manufacturing suites, and it’s our job right now to fill them up.

Justin Bowers — Analyst

Understood. And then quick follow-up. Any change in the committed orders that you have for some of the larger commercial programs?

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

For the bulk orders? No. No changes.

Justin Bowers — Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Conor McNamara from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Conor McNamara — Analyst

Hey, guys. Congrats a nice quarter, and thanks for the questions. Just as a follow-up on the Flanders 2. Have you incorporated any phase 2 or phase 3 program starts into your guidance this year? We’ll start there.

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Yes. One of our first commitments was a Phase 2/3 pivotal. So, yes.

Conor McNamara — Analyst

OK. Great. And then just can you tell us — I know you guys have shared this in the past, but something — a trial that goes — when the trial advances from preclinical to the clinic, you see a pretty big step-up. Is there any way you can kind of quantify how big of an opportunity each of these programs are or how we should think about as you add in new programs, what’s the potential benefit for new programs?

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

I understand where you’re going with, Conor, and it would be good if we could. But what we’re seeing that we’re actually excited about is the broadening significantly of the use of mRNA from infectious disease vaccine to part of — well, tools for cell and gene therapy for protein replacement programs as the message to be expressed for CRISPR gene editing and so on and so forth. And all of those have different delivery sizes and use cases. So the — historically, the results we’ve shared have been what happens to a bulk GMP CleanCap.

Well, an RUO CleanCap customer that’s preclinical that goes bulk GMP CleanCap in phase 1 and 2 and so on. When you blend in the service, and now again, we’re happy to see these different uses for mRNA and these different therapeutic targets. It unfortunately makes it more difficult to predict what the step-up will be. We just know that it’s a good progress at each stage.

Conor McNamara — Analyst

Great. And let me just sneak one in for Kevin, if that’s OK. Kevin, did you — can you quantify the opex change from Q2 to the second half of the year? It sounds like there’s a couple million of costs in there that won’t repeat. So should we assume that opex on an absolute basis goes down from current levels?

Kevin Herde — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes. I think on an adjusted EBITDA impacting basis, that’s correct, Conor.

Conor McNamara — Analyst

Great. Thanks guys. Appreciate it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Ryskin from Bank of America. Your line is open.

Mike Ryskin — Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking the question, guys. Yes, earlier, the audio was a little bit in and out, so if you answered this, I apologize and I must have missed it. But just on the margin guide revision for the year, that bridge you provided was helpful.

You called out the product mix in BST, which makes a lot of sense, the Flanders start-up costs and other initiatives. What I want to dig into is just sort of how transient are some of those factors, right? So the product mix, that should be relatively transient. The Flanders cost, again, if you could provide a little bit more color on if that’s just start-up cost or actual operating cost that’s coming in a little bit higher. And then same thing on the initiatives, the Johns Hopkins and some of those other collaborations.

I imagine that’s relatively one-time in nature in terms of starting up that facility, starting up the collaboration. Or is that something that’s going to have a run rate in the model going forward? Just things — dive into.

Kevin Herde — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, sure. Happy to. Yes, certainly on the Flanders costs, we’ve incurred year-to-date close to, gosh, almost $3 million now of, I would say, really incremental costs to bring up our quality systems, have the documentation, have the validation, stock the facility with things that are not inventoriable items that are therefore used over the manufacturing periods going forward. So we’ve gone ahead and just included those in our expense burdens.

I know some companies choose to exclude those as pre-revenue start-up costs, but we’ve just pushed those through our P&L. So most of that will be period and isolated to the first half of the year, and then we’ll be starting to generate revenue and not see those as an incremental drag on markets prospectively. As it relates to a couple of the other things that we mentioned specifically, certainly our start-up expenses with the collaboration with Johns Hopkins as well as some of our smaller license deals that we haven’t talked about publicly in our enzyme division, all were basically drags on the first half and will kind of come in and out of some of the quarters as we look at it prospectively. But overall, when you think about all those different costs, they will predominantly be behind us as we go forward for the rest of the year.

Mike Ryskin — Analyst

OK. OK. That’s helpful. And then as far as some of the new product projections you’re highlighting, I mean, my belief is they’re a relatively small contributor to revenues now and will gradually ramp over time.

So correct me if that’s wrong. But then I also want to ask about the incremental EBITDA contribution from those. We know your historical CleanCap and BST margins. How should we think about these new products relative to that? Are they incremental to margin, essentially, or should we just think about them as more in line with existing?

Kevin Herde — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, I think predominantly, our incremental products — again, this is, for us, continues to be more of a revenue game than a lot of burying margins within that. We do see a little bit based on the customer channel and some of the different business units that we have. But overall, I mean, especially as it relates to the discovery products, this for us is an infrastructure that we have in place. The incremental variable costs aren’t much different.

We’re trying to put together really solutions that are best for our customers that drive revenues, and those overall revenues drive margin expansion for us. So for us, again, it’s strategic and overall financially beneficial just to drive the total revenue numbers. All these products have high variable margins, and again, mostly generated by our already established facilities and workforce.

Mike Ryskin — Analyst

Gotcha. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matt Larew from William Blair. Your line is open.

Matt Larew — Analyst

Good afternoon. Maybe just stick on the new product side. Trey, you highlighted what now is quite a number of new products filling out sort of the mRNA production suite. You reference part of that obviously is the workflow and I feel like access of more wallet.

Perhaps relative to CleanCap, could you characterize the size of some of the markets that you’re able to access with the new products? And if there are any other new products in particular where you view your approach, your technology, the service offering, product offering to be particularly differentiated and one that you might see drive more growth?

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Yes, absolutely. Within the framework of the mRNA IVT workflow, there are certainly bulk commodity chemicals, there are obviously enzymes, and there are differentiated chemicals — or excuse me, differentiated technologies, which are workflow technologies that manifest themselves in our service business, or products, materials and methods that manifest themselves like CleanCap. We are definitely looking for both internally, organic innovation around differentiated solutions to bring the next generation of workflows to market. But a big part of this lift I think that you’ve identified is just to make sure we cover all the fundamental elements of the IVT workflow.

Thanks to the acquisition of Alphazyme, we now have access to very high quality, high purity enzymes for our customers to blend with the already stellar position that TriLink and MyChem had within the nucleic acid chemistry space. So what you’re hearing and commenting on here is the aggregation of all of the inputs to the IVT workflow. And what our innovation is focused on is finding more differentiated ways to bring about the next generation of mRNA through solutions like CleanCap. I can’t flash those that of course we haven’t released yet, but I’m pretty excited that there are so many different places within the workflow and within the inputs to improve performance overall.

Overall, I think we’re going to bring mRNA purity up, yield up and cost down for our customers. And we can bring that — we can make that possible, as you’ve said, from a wallet share perspective with a one-stop shop, but our intent is to continue driving the industry forward with innovation within that framework.

Matt Larew — Analyst

OK. And then just on Flanders 2, and you mentioned winning RFPs for builds starting in the second half. Could you maybe speak to how the funnel behind some of those initial wins is building and what you’re seeing from a phase or a customer mix perspective? How many of those potential RFPs related to customers who are just being CleanCap customers? And then maybe just sort of what the size or activity level is kind of on a quarter-to-quarter basis.

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Thank you for that question. It’s well-timed because I think Becky was getting a little lonely. Becky, do you want to talk about customer progression, bookings, GMP phasing, all that?

Becky Buzzeo — Chief Commercial Officer

Sure. We’ve had a strong interest in our GMP services to manufacture CleanCap mRNA drug substance. And that has — it’s continued to be quite strong for us this year in building our funnel. We’ve made additions to our commercial team, both on the technical side and then on the seller side, and we have seen a really nice doubling of our funnel from Q1 to Q2.

And it’s across different indications. So cell and gene therapy, protein replacement, those are the places that we’ve seen the most activity.

Matt Larew — Analyst

OK. Thank you.

Deb Hart — Head of Investor Relations

Rob, I think we have time for one last question here.

Operator

Thank you. Your final question comes from the line of [Inaudible] from UBS. Your line is open.

Unknown speaker — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Hey. Thank you for taking the question. Could you please describe if your recently announced supply agreements with large CDMOs or agreements you have with third-party distributors, is it influencing how you think about adjusted EBITDA margins going forward? And on a similar note, with Flanders 2 opening up, how do you view some of the CDMOs you’re supplying CleanCap as competitors and partners for work going forward?

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Yes, I’ll take the latter part first and then hand the first part to Kevin. We — look, we want to make sure that our technology is in every molecule. So we realize that that’s unlikely if we try to hold too tight to the idea that you have to do everything with us. And we have not specced Flanders 2 to satisfy the need of every customer obviously in every continent.

That’s why we have these key partnerships with the leading CDMOs like Fuji, like Lonza that we’ve announced. It’s a key part of our program. And of course, we would love the service business, but we want to make sure that we have differentiated products. We help bring about the next generation of mRNA, and that we help with that, whether it’s just with product or whether it’s product and service.

And Kevin, I’ll hand the front side.

Kevin Herde — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes. I mean, these relationships are really strategic and about a symbiotic relationship here to help these large CDMOs help their customers with getting access to the best technologies to give them the best end product, and certainly throwing CleanCap into that portfolio is incredibly important. As far as economic considerations, it really still boils down to volume. This is really — there’s not stand-alone distributor type pricing or anything of that nature embedded here.

This is really about the underlying program, what the volume of that program is, and we stay pretty disciplined to volume-based pricing. So economically, as we drive volumes through these incremental channels, I would not see the underlying margins differ much from historical margins.

Operator

And that concludes our question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call over to Debra Hart for closing remarks.

Deb Hart — Head of Investor Relations

Well, we just want to thank you for joining us today. We’ll be attending several financial conferences in the coming weeks, so we can try to connect with you at one of those events. Feel free to reach out with any further questions, and we hope you have a great evening.

Operator

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Call participants:

Deb Hart — Head of Investor Relations

Trey Martin — Chief Executive Officer

Kevin Herde — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Catherine Schulte — Analyst

Unknown speaker — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Drew Burch — President, Nucleic Acid Productio

Tejas Savant — Analyst

Matt Hewitt — Analyst

Justin Bowers — Analyst

Conor McNamara — Analyst

Mike Ryskin — Analyst

Matt Larew — Analyst

Becky Buzzeo — Chief Commercial Officer

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